What has been most surprising about working in Lisbon?
I was really surprised with the increased amount of sunlight. Going to work and coming back home, in the sunlight, even during winter, is crazy!
In a way, that made me more energetic, with much less cold, for sure. So I walked around 1h30 a day, in sunlight and without a jacket. So even though it was winter, it constantly felt like a cold summer day in Holland. And that made things more open, more playful.
Covid-19 surprised me! I was going to be there until March and then in February we decided that I would stay until August. Those would end up being Covid-19 months.
What are the main differences between Amsterdam and Lisbon office work and dynamic?
I think the way Koos works in Lisbon by design is way different from Amsterdam, being a team of 3-4 when I started. In Amsterdam, we are very personal, we are far from a formal company (of 30 people). But the difference between 3 and 30 – well, it’s 27! – it is huge. Going to work every day, being in the office together… in the 1st month you already developed personal relationships. You do projects always with those same people – there are some people in Amsterdam whom I still haven’t worked with directly. In Lisbon, you always do projects together. Everyone is joining sales meetings, looking out for new projects in a more existential way than in Amsterdam.
Really enjoyed the personal angle in the team, working for 8 months, we really became a team. We grew stronger and I appreciated that.
What are the similarities between both offices and how do you work together?
Every Koosje is very empathetic, wants the best for everyone, comes from the same type of interest in people (asking why and with no judgments)… this is something that happens in both offices and why we work together so well. We are doing things in similar ways, we are the same company in the end, this builds on each other very well.
More women in Lisbon, more women in Amsterdam, that’s a similarity! 🙂 That comes with the empathic, intuitive side I guess.